Karmic game
Habr is visited and indexed resource, where I have often found useful information at work. But there was no opportunity to even comment. Got an invite for the article, published (though not in a thematic blog). But, it turned out, the problems did not end. It turned out that for the passage of publications in thematic blogs have long (and tedious) to play with someone in a "karma game". The problem is that you need to look for solutions.
This article explores this issue and is forced by reason of their existence. Moved to the blog "Comments Habre".
Just as if a person is sick, he thinks more about how to cure the disease and not continue to work, I can't continue the thematic of the publication if they do not look, those who need it, and, most importantly, they are also directly depends on the very possibility of these publications.
So someone lost money in karma.
Here is a screenshot of karma at the time of this writing.
Screenshot reviews at the time of writing (beware, long cloth, 310, KBA).
spmbt.habrahabr.ru/blog my articles.
spmbt.habrahabr.ru/comments — my comments.
As seen in the screenshots (if you start to zaminusovali) and the links do not write negative, the reviews give the pros (though there were cons, but they are then interrupted), the ratings for my grow. No one asked specifically added. Write public useful information. Offline and outside the site did not ask anyone to affect karma, so the experiment looks clean. Only thing I had to publicly ask to raise the karma in the last comment for the possibility of publication of this article, which was prepared over the last few hours.
For a few days on habré watched a rather unexpected picture. Instead of quietly write feature articles and publish them in the right section, have a useless "struggle for survival" since it is unclear at first glance, the reasons for voting for anonymous users. In order to solve the problem, try to understand the causes.
He have enough experience publications on the subject of web development, and others (30 and 15 publications on the web in about 2 years).
Here is a short history of the publications on habré.
1. Google Code Playground. Feature article for the section "Javascript". Most people don't need the online debugging tools and publications. Met cold interest, karma is first dropped to -1 or -2, a rating of the article, I remember that too, but then karma had improved to +1, and a rating of +5.
Other thematic articles for publication yet — they need time, work, experiments, presentation of the material. Moreover, the example of the first article, doubt that obtained some works feature article will not Zagrebina inability to publish it in the right place (blog theme).
Okay. Suddenly appeared previously interested me the theme with 2 mice on 1 computer. Quickly posledoval question and wrote about it.
2. 2 or more mouse pointers on the screen. Given the experience with the existing program, installation, its pros and cons. Needs to be in the category of blogs "Iron". But, of course, to put can not because of a little karma.
Yes, the rating has met a lively response (to +10), but karma (the publishing target) again staggered around 0, even -1. It is significant that at first inclined to kill. The addition of karma did not happen, moreover, significantly risked to drop the karma. Despite the fact that there is nothing anti-social, as you can see from the publications, did not, and the article has some positive interest.
Well, if so cold a keen interest on Hardware, try the third article, about the news with helpful links. Moreover, such article is and interest.
3. Download Mozilla tripled. And here's the thing, karma + rating again began to lower, then readers of "kinder", the topic went from odabranih and acquired advantages, and karma raised to 1. But the next day again, someone has to kill the karma (not rated), and very critical. After 2 days from the date of publication just a very small chance of raising, and the possibility of a new publication.
To reset the karma of the 1 time is not a solution, because I then return to the same zero, and the possibility of a return to zero single.
In Vasylovych discussions you can find complaints that among the readers of Habra has developed a certain group of people, the vast majority securing new members through the suppression of karma. I think very solid evidence is needed — it is enough to see the situation and make a little calculation: how many disadvantages in daily to suppress all. Everyone can change the karma or the (for a unit of different people) so many times, what value the karma had at the beginning of the day.
On the day of March 5, hours before 17 March 6 17 hours (reference "Blogs — the New" show data per day) published 32 articles. One of them Received a high rating (+20) only publications from the category of gags (Habr jokes with a serious face, As I did not hacked), theme interviews (interesting problem at the interview — logical Olympiad problems), another one, something about C++ more than +10, the rest below and cons. I guess part of the publications in which the authors gained 5 karma who have already migrated to other blogs.
The assessment is usually in the first 2 days, while in the 2-day activity amounts to 5-10 per cent from the first.
Thus, near-zero karma becomes a certain problem, because someone is definitely working at its lowering. For example, my karma for publication 3 articles never rose above +1, and sometimes was -2. Now of the 15 affected karma given 7 Plus, and 8 people gave "negative".
As you can see by the observations of other participants, if karma allows us to get out of personal blogs, publishing further problems with the karma, since it reads slightly different circle of people passing by reference "Case." The message is quickly gaining the threshold of the publication on the home, and there he meets yet more friendly people — just opening the main page and know that the message is already much loved.
The catch is in the small stratum "ideologically minus" setting in the "Personal". Hurt not the cons in the article, and cons in karma. Because if karma was +5, there would not be problems with the negatives in the article (a subsection of the other blogs — other people). Cons — anonymous, but even if it were not so, it is not possible to ignore them.
Methods karamanite — certainly progressive compared to traditional forums, where spamming has to fight the moderators. But in this case they give unreasonably high threshold for representation, or the need to study the intricacies of mechanics and somehow cheat the laws.
Offers (for pure theory, but it's worth considering at least for myself — what are the rules of "mechanics" would allow to avoid problems).
1) constantly minus to reduce or nullify the power of minusovaniya without retaining on. (The same can be done for the pros).
2) To cons not diluted the "pros" to their friends — to enter a Page Rank (in the truest sense of Google) when the reciprocal or cyclical advantages are nullified. (The same can be done for cons. This is already outside of the topic, since having near-zero karma is neither padded nor minusovat can't. But this requires, first, the cons in unrequited — to reduce the force minusovaniya.)
3) the moderators of forums usually there is a line: cause comments. In it, he must write the reason that made the remark (or removed it). It is necessary for internal reporting to other moderators. Minusovaniya has no such reporting, anonymously and seriously affects the ability of the publication. Absent negative feedback, necessary for a balanced existence of self-organizing systems. So if someone starts their net someone to restrict rights, he must reply to get yourself a chance to lose something. At least the weight of your drawback or ability to limit the rights of another for the same period, which have restricted the rights of the first. Now, as is clear from the rules, minusovat a karma daily and is limited to this ability own karma cons.
4) Since karma is, in theory, the total characteristic of a person, the direct (and immediate) influence on it, the idea is that it is unacceptable (this, incidentally, is the situation in Eastern philosophy). Karma is the sum of the individual "sins": malicious or incompetent remarks, the article of unverified content, the article is not relevant to the theme of the blog or resource. Karma is much more logical to calculate estimates of articles, reviews and other activities (own minusovki too). And specify "vector of karma", the warning, where it will move.
So far, all. I hope that this problem will not only help me to restore spent karma under the current laws of mechanics, but also provide a vector of device discussion of the laws themselves.
Article based on information from habrahabr.ru
This article explores this issue and is forced by reason of their existence. Moved to the blog "Comments Habre".
Just as if a person is sick, he thinks more about how to cure the disease and not continue to work, I can't continue the thematic of the publication if they do not look, those who need it, and, most importantly, they are also directly depends on the very possibility of these publications.
So someone lost money in karma.
Here is a screenshot of karma at the time of this writing.
Screenshot reviews at the time of writing (beware, long cloth, 310, KBA).
spmbt.habrahabr.ru/blog my articles.
spmbt.habrahabr.ru/comments — my comments.
As seen in the screenshots (if you start to zaminusovali) and the links do not write negative, the reviews give the pros (though there were cons, but they are then interrupted), the ratings for my grow. No one asked specifically added. Write public useful information. Offline and outside the site did not ask anyone to affect karma, so the experiment looks clean. Only thing I had to publicly ask to raise the karma in the last comment for the possibility of publication of this article, which was prepared over the last few hours.
For a few days on habré watched a rather unexpected picture. Instead of quietly write feature articles and publish them in the right section, have a useless "struggle for survival" since it is unclear at first glance, the reasons for voting for anonymous users. In order to solve the problem, try to understand the causes.
He have enough experience publications on the subject of web development, and others (30 and 15 publications on the web in about 2 years).
Here is a short history of the publications on habré.
1. Google Code Playground. Feature article for the section "Javascript". Most people don't need the online debugging tools and publications. Met cold interest, karma is first dropped to -1 or -2, a rating of the article, I remember that too, but then karma had improved to +1, and a rating of +5.
Other thematic articles for publication yet — they need time, work, experiments, presentation of the material. Moreover, the example of the first article, doubt that obtained some works feature article will not Zagrebina inability to publish it in the right place (blog theme).
Okay. Suddenly appeared previously interested me the theme with 2 mice on 1 computer. Quickly posledoval question and wrote about it.
2. 2 or more mouse pointers on the screen. Given the experience with the existing program, installation, its pros and cons. Needs to be in the category of blogs "Iron". But, of course, to put can not because of a little karma.
Yes, the rating has met a lively response (to +10), but karma (the publishing target) again staggered around 0, even -1. It is significant that at first inclined to kill. The addition of karma did not happen, moreover, significantly risked to drop the karma. Despite the fact that there is nothing anti-social, as you can see from the publications, did not, and the article has some positive interest.
Well, if so cold a keen interest on Hardware, try the third article, about the news with helpful links. Moreover, such article is and interest.
3. Download Mozilla tripled. And here's the thing, karma + rating again began to lower, then readers of "kinder", the topic went from odabranih and acquired advantages, and karma raised to 1. But the next day again, someone has to kill the karma (not rated), and very critical. After 2 days from the date of publication just a very small chance of raising, and the possibility of a new publication.
To reset the karma of the 1 time is not a solution, because I then return to the same zero, and the possibility of a return to zero single.
In Vasylovych discussions you can find complaints that among the readers of Habra has developed a certain group of people, the vast majority securing new members through the suppression of karma. I think very solid evidence is needed — it is enough to see the situation and make a little calculation: how many disadvantages in daily to suppress all. Everyone can change the karma or the (for a unit of different people) so many times, what value the karma had at the beginning of the day.
On the day of March 5, hours before 17 March 6 17 hours (reference "Blogs — the New" show data per day) published 32 articles. One of them Received a high rating (+20) only publications from the category of gags (Habr jokes with a serious face, As I did not hacked), theme interviews (interesting problem at the interview — logical Olympiad problems), another one, something about C++ more than +10, the rest below and cons. I guess part of the publications in which the authors gained 5 karma who have already migrated to other blogs.
The assessment is usually in the first 2 days, while in the 2-day activity amounts to 5-10 per cent from the first.
Thus, near-zero karma becomes a certain problem, because someone is definitely working at its lowering. For example, my karma for publication 3 articles never rose above +1, and sometimes was -2. Now of the 15 affected karma given 7 Plus, and 8 people gave "negative".
As you can see by the observations of other participants, if karma allows us to get out of personal blogs, publishing further problems with the karma, since it reads slightly different circle of people passing by reference "Case." The message is quickly gaining the threshold of the publication on the home, and there he meets yet more friendly people — just opening the main page and know that the message is already much loved.
The catch is in the small stratum "ideologically minus" setting in the "Personal". Hurt not the cons in the article, and cons in karma. Because if karma was +5, there would not be problems with the negatives in the article (a subsection of the other blogs — other people). Cons — anonymous, but even if it were not so, it is not possible to ignore them.
Methods karamanite — certainly progressive compared to traditional forums, where spamming has to fight the moderators. But in this case they give unreasonably high threshold for representation, or the need to study the intricacies of mechanics and somehow cheat the laws.
Offers (for pure theory, but it's worth considering at least for myself — what are the rules of "mechanics" would allow to avoid problems).
1) constantly minus to reduce or nullify the power of minusovaniya without retaining on. (The same can be done for the pros).
2) To cons not diluted the "pros" to their friends — to enter a Page Rank (in the truest sense of Google) when the reciprocal or cyclical advantages are nullified. (The same can be done for cons. This is already outside of the topic, since having near-zero karma is neither padded nor minusovat can't. But this requires, first, the cons in unrequited — to reduce the force minusovaniya.)
3) the moderators of forums usually there is a line: cause comments. In it, he must write the reason that made the remark (or removed it). It is necessary for internal reporting to other moderators. Minusovaniya has no such reporting, anonymously and seriously affects the ability of the publication. Absent negative feedback, necessary for a balanced existence of self-organizing systems. So if someone starts their net someone to restrict rights, he must reply to get yourself a chance to lose something. At least the weight of your drawback or ability to limit the rights of another for the same period, which have restricted the rights of the first. Now, as is clear from the rules, minusovat a karma daily and is limited to this ability own karma cons.
4) Since karma is, in theory, the total characteristic of a person, the direct (and immediate) influence on it, the idea is that it is unacceptable (this, incidentally, is the situation in Eastern philosophy). Karma is the sum of the individual "sins": malicious or incompetent remarks, the article of unverified content, the article is not relevant to the theme of the blog or resource. Karma is much more logical to calculate estimates of articles, reviews and other activities (own minusovki too). And specify "vector of karma", the warning, where it will move.
So far, all. I hope that this problem will not only help me to restore spent karma under the current laws of mechanics, but also provide a vector of device discussion of the laws themselves.
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